";s:4:"text";s:15731:"1970 Mustang Mach I "Synergy Green Pearl"351 Cleveland - Fuel Injection "The Rattle Shaker" Complete nut and bolt rotisserie restoration LESS than 500 miles by C.A.R.S. Steve Kellmeyer During the time we both were studying for the bar, we were on a break. By the way, there was no implication that it makes it easy for the woman to get child support. There is a certain degree of sadness in all of this, yes, but Ive turned out far better than my friends whose fathers have been unable to make up their minds one way or another about parenthood. No one is forcing any woman to have the child and much less to keep it. Government will go after him for either Medical Support and/or Child Support. I think that the thing to keep in mind is that the angry ranters are really just a very vocal minority. April 10, 2012, 5:53 pm, Women have figured that game out, and it sucks. Im PRETTY sure you only included this to make yourself sound like a selfless person. April 10, 2012, 7:09 pm. Im quite late to the discussion, but I took a lot of time reading over the comments, trying to make sense of the two sides of the argument at hand. LW, this guy sounds like a scumbag. No worries. And it seems to me that he isnt looking to get back together with you because hell die without you; it seems like hes trying to escape the clutches of responsibility by retreating to what he knows As in, someone who takes no issue with his immaturity and irresponsibility. I dont care. Does that change the situation as all? female
I am sorry, but that is just dumb. John Rohan I just feel sorry for the pregnant girl. April 10, 2012, 10:28 am. This is about a pregnancy thats two weeks in. April 10, 2012, 2:42 pm. Everything else aside, most of the guys in this thread are more upset about the sex part than they are about the child out of wedlock part. Move on already, LW. Unless Im sure the guy will make it worth my while, Im not going to do it. I was thinking this letter was going to be juicy!! Your ilk will perish from a lack of procreation. They Didn't "Win". He was broken up with her at that time, and had no agreement that they would get together in the future. Iwannatalktosampson 4) The boyfriend, especially given his age (and that this cant be blamed on youthful impulsiveness), doesnt look the best in this scenario. But if YOU really are so fucked up and so pathetic that you want to build a life with a man who for intents are purposes wants to simply abandon his own child have at it. Is it 100% fair to men or women? Of course, there are adjustments to be made, but babies do not mean that all other relationships become secondary. But hes no knight in shining armor because he is willing to bare some legally minimal level of responsibility. whose pregnancy and right to bear the child are apparently sacrosanct.-yep, true story having sex with someone you dont know that well. This man in the letter has spent those same 25 years being an ever-aging manchild. I showed up late to the hot debate in the comments (damn you work lol), but to put this in perspective for me, I was born to relatively young parents and now at 25, my dad is a few years older then this gem of a man in this letter. what if you were pregnant, LW scenario thats been mentioned). The woman can choose to abort the baby, even in the event the father desperately wants it, and is willing to raise and support it himself. She isnt a woman he wants to be with his entire life. =), lets_be_honest Image Source. door to door service. That support is not hers. However, my point isnt that children should not be supported. depressed, got back together, money. He ought to get a vesectomy since this guy is obviously carrying the manchild gene. Its not that fucking hard. If your dead-beat ex wants know part that is HIS decision. We all know that going in. Im pretty sure the guy is being called scum because of his shitty attitude towards the pregnancy and the unborn child. I dont feel anyone should be forced to be a part of a childs life. If youre a man, your time to prevent having a child is when you have sex and decide how to protect yourself. A real man steps up to be there for the baby, more than just money for the baby, and to be there for the mother even if he cant stand her. Its called lying. Offers may be subject to change without notice. April 10, 2012, 5:49 pm. ele4phant She asked what to do with this guy. April 9, 2012, 1:13 pm. The you made your choice when you had sex argument goes both ways. Privacy Policy. But it also ought to be her responsibility. You said it better, but I jumped back in before seeing your replies. But just my guess. And good for you limiting your preconceived notions to the entire female gender instead. Why do you think that is? So, he feels it is best to make things work with her for the sake of his baby. reader, anonymous, writes (28 January 2008): A
Im a guy, and I think that the BF is a loser scum bag. And you know, its pretty reprehensible to be calling this other woman a slew of names. Susie is on birth control but they still discuss what names their eventual children will have. April 9, 2012, 5:46 pm. I know youve been in a tough situation and the fact that you and your daughter came out of it the amazingly awesome people you are shows that all a kid needs is an amazing mother who wants to provide for her kid at whatever cost to herself. Besides, he made that choice a long time ago when you broke up the first time. Think of the children. And now that theres a pregnancy and the options arent his hes furious at the woman he impregnated because it isnt going the way he wants. And, lo and behold, you arent coming across any better. Ever look at the clock in your car to check the time while driving (or the radio to change channels, or a billboard)? That goes for women as well. And I appreciate that he made his decision and stuck with it, instead of deciding to drop in and out whenever he felt like. He has been torn up by the pain he has caused me. When its the woman who will suffer the consequences, its the woman who should be vigilant. Itll take work and patience, but he CAN be a father to the baby, and a partner to you.. Not only was she on the pill, but he wore a condom! reader, iz07a+, writes (11 March 2010): A
I disagreed with a lot of your comments but I still enjoyed them. My above reenactment was not a true depiction of the dialogue I believe took place. Your FAMILY can be the most important thing in your life not just your children. Someone else has assumed it. There are any number of cases where under-age males, 12 years old, 14 years old, 16 years old, get hit for child support because the female teacher who statutorily RAPED them got pregnant. So, again, why are you crying and being depressed over him? A mans legal obligation to support his children is not some well hidden secret and nowhere is it mentioned that hes being asked for anything more. Why he is scum but a woman who opts for an abortion or adoption isnt its beyond me. And should. Males pay a surrogate to carry the tissue blob, or lesbians can carry the tissue blob themselves. If a woman has sex with a man she should be prepared for the fact that it could result in her under going a medical proceedure, be it an abortion or childbirth. The next day I text her that we can give it another chance, but she insisted she was not feeling the same . End. So the law says, hey, you two created this child, you two are responsible for supporting it. Is that fair to women? Its not fair to create a child and then abandon it. How very astute of you to notice the fundamental difference between the genders. Its that theyre more likely to be honest about not wearing them when something bad results. Now this is really petty, but I'm planning to post a picture of me and my boyfriend for her to see. It upsets me how much anger seems to be directed towards this unborn child. Sometimes the contribution of a father who doesnt want to be a father is far worse than the lack of father. April 9, 2012, 1:23 pm. I take it, then, that your position is that a man should never ever have sex unless hes either (a) sterile, or (b) willing to raise the possible resulting child and/or pay for that child for a couple of decades, but that a woman has those choices but also can opt for an abortion and so can opt out of the obligation of a child. lets_be_honest Or, hey, maybe they were both tested, maybe they were both clean, and maybe he believed her, and maybe she actually was on the pill. He didnt expect that to happen. He hadnt. No clearly this is a brilliant way to be supported for life. Its not a gender-based law. If a guy *does not* want to be a father, he shouldnt be having sex with women unless he knows, for sure, they have a similar attitude when it comes unintended pregnancy. Mileage 450. I wont go into the reasons they came to this, (very long, and quite personal, story), but its entirely possible that if a women gets pregnant and decides to keep the baby though the father would prefer she abort, he DOES have the option to waive his parental rights and duties to the child and thus not be legally responsible for child support. 1. and the man has the option to take extra precaution and choose to wear a condom. Any advice for me?Signed, AnonymousDear Sis,News Flash: This man is not and has never been your man. Wrap it up or dont have sex, thats the only choice YOU have.. 1. the baby is not your fault. She got pregnant. I attempt to avoid name calling, but if you have a problem with one person ASKING another person to do or not do ANYTHING, you are a poor excuse for an adult! The sex was good. So, to be clear, every woman who has had an abortion is, in your mind, an immature asshole. Everyone experiences the ups and downs of a relationship differently, and the same goes for breakups. Here is the truth: After a break up you create a hierarchy. Wrong. Medications interfere with birth control, not taking it at the same time and whole other host of reason why she could have legitimately gotten pregnant on birth control. This child will have no father and while I dont feel bad for the parents, I feel very bad for this child. She doesnt tell the waiter that she has a peanut allergy, because she assumes that simply ordering a dish without peanuts in it will protect her. . 2. the guy is not worth you in a relationship. You dont really get to have a say in this situation, but encourage your boyfriend to have a relationship with this child. Do you know how much day care alone is a month? Email usyour questions for Dr. Sherry now and be sure to include Ask Dr. Sherry in the subject line. lets_be_honest These people are the REAL zombies.. landygirl Even if this baby malarky goes away, even if this woman only demands financial support and nothing else from your boyfriend, this sort of drama will be your life if you stay with him. Ill bet if LW gets pregnant, this guy is gone just about instantly. And hopefully people begin to realize that just taking the pill isnt an absolute gurantee that you wont make a baby. April 9, 2012, 12:39 pm. However, I dont think it sounds like hes ready or willing to settle down with either woman. Ive been in the position where I chose to keep my baby when the father wanted to abort. But in that case, taking the pill you know that youre supposed to use a back up method while on ATB. If you were instrumental in the making of the child congratulations it is yours. These Are The 5 Signs Your Ex Is In A Rebound Relationship. And Im not sure what his being 40 years old has to do with her getting an abortion. But it is probably fair to say I hate the over-the-top modern feminism you appear to espouse. So, if she opted for an abortion and he was furious with her for not keeping the baby, would he be scum? It sounds glib, and I mean, malarky? I feel so depressed about everything. Hes a real winner. Not a double standard at all. But early on, this is not an inevitable outcome, and if only one person wants the child, the other should be able to not be obligated. When two people opt to have not conceive by mistake but instead carry through to birth a child, they should be obligated to that child. Male victims being forced to pay child support, while extremely rare, I agree is sad and unfair to those boys. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . First of all, they knew each other for two months, not two minutes. The rest of us enjoy it, I think people dont give the blow job enough credit. Ok.you were on a breakhe met some women club and after 2 minutes decided to have sex with her (which people do Im not against a 1 night stand).but he doesnt throw a condom on because shes on the pill (so hes not protected from STDs and he has no verification shes actually using the pill responsibly)..and if that level of irresponsibility isnt enough, he ahem finishes the job inside of her! People arent calling him scum for having unprotected sex with a women he was dating. Long story short he ended up comeing to his sences and we got back together a month or so before our son was born. submandave Bottom line. And if you arent ready for a child, then use a goddamn condom.. Not to mention raising the baby, which women are way way WAAAYYY more likely to do alone than men. I think this post must have been linked somewhere, hence all the men defenders, out to protect a mans right to have indiscriminate sex without consequences. Your body, your choice; however, your choice, your problem. April 10, 2012, 7:31 pm. Ill give you a hint it turns into a baby. There is no rhyme or reason. Translation: men should think before they poke but women can do whatever they damn well please. honeybeenicki Doesnt have to be romantically involved with this woman, but he wants nothing to do with the child that he helped to create, or the woman he cant stand. Thats nature, Tim. But then, I guess I like giving people the benefit of the doubt. Imagine that you get to design a law that will allow fairness no matter which of these happens. This poor unborn child who I feel very, very sorry for already, is not the problem. We still cant quite manage partheogenesis or budding. One of the draw backs of only knowing someone for a short period of time. This does sound like a lot of cod wallop and baby malarky shenanigans to me as well. There was a single picture of my ex-boyfriend, his then-girlfriend, and their first child. Now, I highly doubt the LWs boyfriends baby mother to be is psychotic as my friends former hook up. I ended up feeling sorry him, and I started talking to him again, but2 weeks laterhe said the pregnant girl was threatening to hurt herself and he was going to be with her and that he cared too much about her and his unborn child to not try to work it out. Im pretty surprised by some of the stances shes made on this thread and I do enjoy and almost always agree with her comments. AndreaMarie Because she accidentally got pregnant with his child? Why are people here creating scenarios that arent in the letter? And I do commend him for providing financial support. caitie_didnt As for what you do: I personally would ask him to ask the woman to get a paternity test. Nothing more, nothing less. 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